Teddy Turner, former Republican congressional candidate, businessman, and economics teacher talks about how conservative politics can make it better. If you are a self-identified liberal, then I challenge you to listen. If you are tempted to skip over this, then ask yourself if you are part of the echo-chamber problem, or the solution.
Only one number cited in the podcast, it was a dated stat that combined federal direct and indirect (contract employment) from 2006 at 14M, the newest numbers from USA facts put the number at 4M, and an addtional 19M at the state government level, for a total of 23M:
https://usafacts.org/government-finances/employment?comparison=by_government_type&government_type=combined&table=employment–number-of-employees&year=2014
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